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withzombies | 7 months ago

Many of the changes that would work for LLMs would also be beneficial to users.

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skydhash|7 months ago

Not at all. The shell already provide us ways to get contextual information (PS1, ...). And the commands generally provides error message or error code.

In one of the example provided:

  $ sdfsdf
  zsh: command not found: 'sdfsdf'
  zsh: current directory is /Users/ryan
  zsh: Perhaps you meant to run: cd agent_directory; sdfsdf
You could just use `pwd`, like most people that put the current directory in the $PS1 to make sure that the agent stays in the correct directory.

jacobr1|7 months ago

Yeah, this example isn't great - you can just tell the llm to run pwd more frequently or something.

But for the `$command | head -100` example, the usage is a bit different. I run into this myself on the cli, and often ended up using `less` in similar context.

Two cases

1) sometimes I use head to short circuit a long running, but streaming output, command so I just assess if it is starting to do the right thing but not bear the time/computational cost of full processing

2) sometimes the timing doesn't matter but the content is too verbose, need to see some subset of the data. But here head is too limited. I need something like wc & head and maybe grep in one command line with context. Maybe something like

$command | contextual-filter -grepn 5 -grep error -head 10

some data ... first the first 10 lines ... an error message with 5 lines of context surrounding before and after

Summary: 100000 total lines 15 printed exited with code 0

You can do all that already with grep and others, but you need to run multiple commands to get all the context

procone|7 months ago

I'm sorry, but no. The tools work. I don't need "more context" from my `less` or `more` commands. The LLM can train on the man pages just as a human can read the man pages.

esafak|7 months ago

What man page? I have never worked on a product with one. We're not teaching the LLM how to use `ls`; we are talking about the code being written today.

edit: Mea culpa.