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vitonsky | 7 months ago

Matrix community scam everyone when claim a matrix is a privacy-focused. And you are part of this community who deceive people. The fact that anything is open source is not make it "privacy focused".

Literally everything in Matrix is designed against privacy and security. Check issue I mention above. The product that is "privacy focused" would never have such type of problems that will force developers to say that lack of encryption for chats is a minor problem that will not be fixed.

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Arathorn|7 months ago

your issue is complaining that matrix-bot-sdk can’t exfiltrate encryption keys which predate it joining a room? this feels like a pretty reasonable limitation. if you really need this, use matrix-rust-sdk with MSC4268 enabled.

vitonsky|7 months ago

No, as i wrote in issue title and explained twice in this thread, the problem is bot SDK does not support encryption. It must work by default, for "privacy focused" application. Chat with no encryption must be an option, not default.

Matrix protocol is over-complicated, as consequence any SDK and even clients are over-complicated too, that eventually makes any interaction with Matrix is difficult, unpleasant, and error-prone.

Matrix design is error-prone by its nature:

Keys exchange confuses many users, I had many questions of people who are not programmer.

Matrix encourage login at random sites who up their web client, that is critical security problem.

But a Matrix fans are blind to a problems. This is why I don't believe Matrix will transform from marginal chat for freaks to a mainstream chat where people talk. So eventually, Matrix is a platform where Matrix fans talks about Matrix and send porn to each other.