[dangero]

Have you had the realization that you could never go back to dealing with all the minutia again?

LLMs have changed me. I want to go outside while they are working and I am jealous of all the young engineers that won’t lose the years I did sitting in front of a screen for 12 hours a day while sometimes making no progress on connecting two black boxes.

[lelanthran]

Serious question: have you considered that dealing with all that minutiae and working through all that pain has made you capable to have the LLM write code?

Those young engineers, in 10 years, won't be able to fix what the LLM gave them,because they have not learned anything about programming.

They have all learned how to.micromanage an LLM instead.

[NitpickLawyer]

> Those young engineers, in 10 years, won't be able to fix what the LLM gave them,because they have not learned anything about programming.

I have heard a version of this plenty of times, and it was never correct. In the early 90s it was the "electronics" people that were saying "I come from an electronics background, these young'uns will look at a computer and don't know what to do if it breaks". Well, bob, we did, the whole field moved to color coded anti-stupid design, and we figured it out.

Then I heard it about IDEs. Oh, you young people are so spoiled with your IDEs and whatnot, real men code in a text editor.

Then it was about frameworks. BBbbut what if your framework breaks, what do you do then, if you don't know the underlying whatever?

... same old, same old.

[j45]

Losing first principles will have some kind of an unexpected result.

Like, this is how we've always done it.

Finding a way to better learn first principles compared to sitting in front of a screen for 12 hours a days is important.