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crop_rotation | 7 months ago

Most people do dream of gaining power and the sweet corruption money, whether they can or not is a different matter. Your comment is the perfect example of what I was alluding to, trying to have a discussion on India's problems gets you labelled for "racist undertones".

> and has taken great strides in eliminating corruption through technology.

Please enlighten me with one example. What great strides have been taken in eliminating corruption. Go to any small town and most prime real estate is owned by government servants. Go to a big city and most prime real esate is owned by politicians or their adjacent entities.

> Read about their mammoth push to get everyone a bank account and direct benefit transfers.

This just removes a very very small slice of the corruption pie. If this is the best example from a long time then things don't look good.

> The people you allude to be dreaming of a cushy govt job that allows them to be corrupt is a tiny tiny % of their 1.3B population.

Just look at the numbers of people studying for years for the various Government exams. It is not tiny by any means. And 1.3 B is not the right yardstick, but the number of youths in that age group.

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tinuviel|7 months ago

I gave two examples. Direct Benefit Transfers & getting everyone bank accounts. They did reduce last mile corruption.

The people I allude to are a substantial portion of the population

>> Under Pradhan Mantri Jan Dhan Yojana (PMJDY), a national mission to ensure access to financial services, about 341 million accounts were opened between August 2014 and January 2019, with aggregate deposits of around US$12.5 billion as of January 2019. Of these accounts, 181 million were opened by women.

>> As of January 2019, 440 schemes covering farm and non-farm subsidies, social protection payments such as pensions and public workfare programmes, scholarships, academic fellowships, conditional cash transfers, and other government payments implement DBTs across 56 ministries, with Rupees (INR) 2,16,844 crores (US$ 2.1 trillion) transferred in total in 2018–19 (Direct Benefit Transfer Mission, Government of India Citation2019)

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/09614524.2019.1...

Please provide sources and data before, again, painting with racist broad strokes. I know the internet has a hate boner for India and anything the country it has done positively but please dont let the rhetoric blind you.

If you lived in India you’d know there are substantially more people joining the formal economy instead of lining up for govt exams.

FallCheeta7373|7 months ago

There are cynical ways to look at this—which the opposition has pointed out in India— but this end result is net positive.

I think you might be underestimating the govt exam people though. People who work in government do know how rampant is corruption, the higher ups are more accountable and do curb on corruption by transferring once it gets caught , but a lot of corruption cases are silenced. Take the recent case of delhi justice, clear example of what I am speaking about, it's not that uncommon in govt on levels where's there more managerial competition for power and money.

__rito__|7 months ago

> Most people do dream of gaining power and the sweet corruption money

No. This is false. Most people just want a stable, peaceful life. People want their children to become: 1. Take their profession if it is cushy (profitable business, law practice, etc.) 2. Become a doctor, 3. Move abroad and become an academic/engineer, 4. Have a government job due to stability (most departments don't have any opportunity for corruption, where I live, people drool over becoming govt. High School teachers, which is a very chill job, yet tenured and stable, but 0 money under the table), 5. Have an IT job, 6. Become self-employed and earn big bucks, etc.

You are talking in extreme delusions.

> Go to any small town and most prime real estate is owned by government servants

This is so so wrong. Most land in small town are owned by relatively richer business-owners, who pays zilch in income taxes. In a small town, the richest people are the local bar owner, marble merchant, B2B traders, etc.

If govt. servants do have land, it is become they have very easily available loans, and have a stable, regular, increasing income for 20-30 years which also compounds when saved.

tinuviel|7 months ago

You are being too kind. Looking at other comments on this thread I feel there is an uncompromising and immovable hatred/racism against India and Indians. They feel India is perpetually flawed with no progress whatsoever and is screwed no matter what it does.