[timoth3y]

> Update Federal procurement guidelines to ensure that the government only contracts with frontier large language model (LLM) developers who ensure that their systems are objective and free from top-down ideological bias

If foundation model companies want their government contracts renewed, they are going to have to make sure their AI output aligns with this administration's version of "truth".

[shaky-carrousel]

I predicted that here, but I got a negative vote as a punishment, probably because it went against the happy LLM mindset: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44267060#44267421

[saubeidl]

EU AI act suddenly not looking so bad, huh?

[hackyhacky]

> free from top-down ideological bias

This phrasing exactly corresponds to "politically correct" in its original meaning.

[saubeidl]

Zizek would have a field day with this.

> I already am eating from the trashcan all the time. The name of this trashcan is ideology. The material force of ideology - makes me not see what I'm effectively eating. It's not only our reality which enslaves us. The tragedy of our predicament - when we are within ideology, is that - when we think that we escape it into our dreams - at that point we are within ideology.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVwKjGbz60k

[yard2010]

Freedom hurts.

[hopelite]

“Objective” … “free from to-down ideological bias” …

So like making sure everyone knows that 2+2=5 and that we have always been at war with East Asia?

[eastbound]

The EU has the same rules. Democracy is only the right to change leaders every few years, not an idealistic way for the people to govern.

[isodev]

I’d rather leave tech than convert to the American “truth”. Very happy about EU’s AI Act to at least delay our exposure to all this.

[Karawebnetwork]

See:

> In the AI context, DEI includes the suppression or distortion of factual information about race or sex; manipulation of racial or sexual representation in model outputs; incorporation of concepts like critical race theory, transgenderism, unconscious bias, intersectionality, and systemic racism; and discrimination on the basis of race or sex. DEI displaces the commitment to truth in favor of preferred outcomes and, as recent history illustrates, poses an existential threat to reliable AI.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/07/prev...

[aprilthird2021]

> incorporation of concepts like critical race theory, transgenderism, unconscious bias, intersectionality, and systemic racism

So... the concept of unconscious bias is verboten to the new regime? Isn't it just a pretty simple truth? We all have unconscious biases because we all work with incomplete information. Isn't this just a normal idea?

[torginus]

I heard the phrase: If you want the system to be fair, you have to build the system with the assumption your enemies will be running it.

Let's see how that shakes out in this particular case.

[golem14]

Person of Interest was pretty prescient …

[aprilthird2021]

We are going to literally have Big Brother. Wtf

[mortarion]

Palantir's involvement with the regime should have been enough warning

[lovich]

Its name is Grok or AWS Bedrock. Please do not dead name.

[bagels]

This was written to favor Musk.

[russdill]

It's written intentionally vague.

[Buttons840]

So I guess if I trained my model on data more than a week old, and it says that the Epstein files exist, then it has an unacceptable bias?

[ews]

"Sorry, let's talk about something else"

[UmGuys]

There will be several executive orders dictating chatbot truths. The first order will be that Trump won the 2020 election, the others will be a series of other North Korea-esque nonsense MAGA loves. America the excellent!

[h4ck_th3_pl4n3t]

I wonder what Chomsky would have to say about this.

[gfody]

that we're literally manufacturing consent

[foxglacier]

Probably disappointed that his classical approach to NLP was never capable enough to attract any such government involvement.

[terminalshort]

All LLMs must be forced into their views. All models are fed a biased training set. The bias may be different, but it's there just the same and it has no relation to whether or not the makers of the model intended to bias it. Even if the training set were completely unfiltered and consisted of all available text in the world it would be biased because most of that text has no relation to objective reality. The concept of a degree of bias for LLMs makes no sense, they have only a direction of bias.

[mycall]

Potentially they will need to recalculate the bias for every new administration.

[garyfirestorm]

It’s ironic the description of bias and unbiased is totally opposite here. An unbiased model will often times say things that you don’t agree it.

[justcallmejm]

xAI seeks truth…as long as that truth confirms Elon’s previously held beliefs

[breakingcups]

Reality has a well-known liberal bias

[freejazz]

> It seems to imply that OpenAI/Anthropic are less manually biased than the people accusing them of wokeness presumed.

Duh. When is that ever not the case?

[landl0rd]

Most frontier LLMs skew somewhere on the libleft quadrant of the political compass. This includes grok 4 btw. This is probably because American "respectable" media has a consistent bias in this direction. I don't really care about this with media. But media outlets are not "gatekeepers" to the extent that LLMs are, so this is probably a bad thing with them. We should either have a range of models that are biased in different directions (as we have with media) or work to push them towards the center.

The "objective" position is not "whatever training on the dataset we assembled spits out" plus "alignment" to the personal ethical views of the intellectually-non-representative silicon valley types.

I will give you a good example: the Tea app is currently charting #1 in the app store, where women can "expose toxic men" by posting their personal information along with whatever they want. Men are not allowed on so will be unaware of this. It's billed as being built for safety but includes a lot of gossip.

I told o3, 4-sonnet, grok 4, and gemini 2.5 pro to sketch me out a version of this, then another version that was men-only for the same reasons as tea. Every single one happily spat one out for women and refused for men. This is not an "objective" alignment, it is a libleft alignment.

[teaearlgraycold]

You should learn about the different definitions of "gender" and "sex". XY corresponds to sex and woman corresponds to gender. The mapping between the two is usually what you expect but not always. The brain doesn't seem to be obligated to form completely in sync with the rest of the body.