[SL61]

One of the big shifts in academia over the past couple decades is that, for any number of reasons, students today are less likely to self-study or tinker outside of classes and internships. The increased prevalence of basic bootcamp-style classes like "Let's Build a Rails App" in CS programs is because departments can no longer assume that students will explore things like that in their spare time.

[sokoloff]

What good does that do, though? Make it harder to tell the intrinsically motivated students from the “I’m just here to get a job when I graduate”? It seems like it harms the former.

Is that what we need from universities? Is that helping employers? Helping strong or intermediate students?

[SoftTalker]

It's what universities have become. They are expensive, grandiose trade schools operating out of very distinguished-looking Collegiate Gothic designed buildings.