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effed3 | 7 months ago

Economy is way too much growth, as inequality and inefficiency, pollution, and resource exaustion, being mainly based on finance and speculation and not on -real- economy, for the good of a very small part of humanity. Has to grow in this manner even more? And with the help of AI?

If some rules are not changed and a more equality model is developed, there are no more world at all.

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mritterhoff|7 months ago

What's your problem with growth? Growth means higher GDP which is correlated with all sorts of good things, including longer lives, and less food scarcity.

effed3|7 months ago

i like "all sort of good things" (and more if are really available for -all-) but IMHO relating these to an aeternal even bigger growth is a big misconception, seems to me that now the bigger part of growth is going to benefits very few, and polluting/undermining the rest of the world, vanishing the "good thing" for the rest of us. I imagine growth more as a consequence of a really sane economy, capable to adapt, expand and even shrink when necessary without devastating markets and real GDP, i cannot think now 'growth' as the foundation of a real sustainable and development in the near future. Is like 'progress', a word mainly referring to speed and more speed, but never about 'direction'.

Returning to AI, really can these new techs benefits all of us? I doubt. In some sectors AI techs can be a great aid (expert systems, data mining, ) but this growth of LLM things seems a big bubble, more related to speculation than others. just my 5c.

immibis|7 months ago

Most GDP growth is just a change in price level - even inflation-adjusted GDP, since prices consistently rise faster than inflation. How does this help anyone?