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arend321 | 7 months ago

I'm waiting for Android Virtualization Framework to run a full Linux distro on my smartphone with portable monitor (glasses). Already using Termux but AVF is hopefully much more performant. Maybe the Samsung S26 Ultra will have full support. I might ditch my miniPC if this works out.

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flyinghamster|7 months ago

I've been playing with it[0] - it still has a few rough edges. It's rather slow to start up compared to firing up a VM in virt-manager, and when you shut it down you must wait for it to finish shutting down before trying to restart it.

Woe to you if Debian pushes a systemd update. It took repeated incantations with apt to get that update to take, because updating systemd would crash the VM Every. Damn. Time.

[0] The current console-only incarnation.

arend321|7 months ago

Thanks for sharing. I hope with Android 16 and Samsung implementing AVF for DeX these issues will be ironed out.

yjftsjthsd-h|7 months ago

> Already using Termux but AVF is hopefully much more performant.

I'm cautiously optimistic about AVF, but I don't see why it would have any better performance than native code running directly on the host system?

arend321|7 months ago

I thought AVF has hardware virtualization where proot is user-space.

boomskats|7 months ago

I'm waiting for one of the headset vendors to support IMU-based HID mouse cursor control in hardware, with the same end goal in mind. In the meantime I'm stuck on amd64 with my little libinput driver[0].

[0]: https://github.com/boomskats/woahland

TechDebtDevin|7 months ago

How long can work on one of these for?

fsflover|7 months ago

Full Linux distro already works fine on my Librem 5, without unnecessary, costly virtualization.

arend321|7 months ago

It's a very interesting project, but I don't think I'm ready to let go of all my Android apps.