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timje1 | 7 months ago

It's literally just sticking the MPs name into an AI and asking for it to generate a mock ID for them. None of their real data is being used (e.g. their face, their DoB, the address) and the mock IDs wouldn't fool anyone for a second. I'd love if someone who understands the law would weigh in though

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NicuCalcea|7 months ago

I don't think "It was actually ChatGPT that committed the crime, not me" would fly in a British court.

marcus_holmes|7 months ago

That's an interesting question, though.

We hold that LLMs are incapable of generating copyrighted images, so it's not just a tool - if it was just a tool then the author would be able to copyright the images. The courts recognise that an LLM is capable of generating things in its own right (which is why they're not copyrightable - copyrights only protect human works).

So it follows that an LLM must be able to create images itself, separate from the human prompter.

Whether that's enough to absolve the human of the crime, though - IANAL, and I suspect it would take the House of Lords to rule on it definitively.

zmmmmm|7 months ago

the law is pretty fickle that way. It's illegal to rob a bank no matter how badly you bungle it. Saying afterwards "but my gun was clearly made of plastic" probably won't get you completely off the hook if you actually threatened someone with it and asked for money (this site is literally titled Use Your Local MP's ID - it's expressing an intent).

gus_massa|7 months ago

Does the AI has access to newspapers? If John Doe is a MP, then he is probably the most famous Joe Doe in the last 5 years and the AI may grab his photo from a newspaper. I don't know about the national ID in UK, but here in Argentina the national ID number is public. A lot of public documents include "John Doe (DNI 23.456.789)", and the are sites where you can search it (the DB has problems with almost coalitions, so you may get a number 23.456.789 from one "John X. Doe" that is a 50yo in Buenos Aires and another "John Y. Doe" with number 59.876.653 that is a 3yo in Ushuaia, so in many cases it's easy to guess)

OJFord|7 months ago

> I don't know about the national ID in UK

There isn't one.

aembleton|7 months ago

It does use their face

John7878781|7 months ago

It's better to be safe than sorry. For your own best interest, I would shut down the site and delete this post.

jrockway|7 months ago

Comply in advance. It's the #1 way to make illegal laws work!

brookst|7 months ago

“Don’t upset the autocrats!”