[leoqa]

I really disagree. I think hentai is a flimsy wrapper around child fetishization and needs to be heavily regulated. I think having rape or torture simulators are extremely harmful in multiple ways.

Really would prefer the government outlaw these things but I don’t mind companies protecting themselves from liability.

[Seb-C]

In my opinion, this content has a net positive effect on society.

While of course I cannot approve those activities, we cannot ignore the fact that there exists people who are sexually attracted and aroused by children, torture, rape and many other things. And we know that you don't get to choose your sexual orientation, it just happens.

As a parent, I find it reassuring to live in a country where those people can relief their pulsions through fictional content. Stripping them from this option would only make them suffer through this pain and shame until a point where they cannot endure it anymore and end-up harming real people.

We know that harassing and witch-hunting minorities doesn't work and actually makes the situation worse. As uncomfortable as this specific case is, I believe that it's much better to help them find a way to live peacefully in society.

[fruitworks]

I don't think it's a good idea to deputize payment processors. They are practicially natural monopolies due to network effects.

If it's illegal then the government should pursue it directly. It's better tested in court than behind closed doors.

[const_cast]

We can't go banning things just because they can, potentially, be used for "child fetishization".

Movies can be used for that purpose, and certainly Hollywood knows that. Books. TV. Any form of media.

Not to mention, rape and torture "simulators" (do you by change mean media?) are integral to our understanding of those things. What if rape survivors could not speak it, for it is too shameful?

And, the elephant in the room, sex is alone on this pedestal. Sex, alone, is uniquely stigmatized to a degree that nothing even comes close. Violence, no matter how gruesome and vile, does not reach even 1/1000th the scorn of even modest sex.

This is a purity game, plain and simple. The shame around sex and the extreme desire to control it comes from the patriarchy and religious ideals. These should not be humored.

[wkat4242]

> Violence, no matter how gruesome and vile, does not reach even 1/1000th the scorn of even modest sex.

Ehh in the US yes. In most of Europe not so much (the UK and maybe Hungary as the most notable exceptions)

[lpln3452]

I looked up the word 'hentai', and the way you used it is incorrect. It's like using the word 'porn' to mean 'child pornography.'

There is also a problem with your argument itself. Child pornography is illegal because it involves harm to children, not to suppress people with certain preferences. If there are no victims and it’s just a fictional depiction, there’s no reason to ban it.

Personally I don’t really like people who are into that but that doesn’t give anyone the right to oppress them.

[Spivak]

Well, at least in the US, it's legal to draw, sell, and purchase those drawings—no wrapper needed it can be explicitly cp. And while I have negative infinity desire to consume or encounter this kind of content I nonetheless think it should exist as a 'methadone' for folks whose sexual frustration might otherwise drive them to do something horrible.

And if we allow it at all I don't think it makes sense to pick and choose what artistic mediums it's allowed to take no matter how abhorrent I might personally find it.