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MOARDONGZPLZ | 7 months ago

I would absolutely do this if I ran anthropic. Of course unlimited implicitly means “unlimited without abuse.” There are always these “power users” who run it 25/8 and use all the resources, or sell access to others. To Anthropic: of course the “power users” are also going to be the top 5% of extremely online folks who are going to angrily pen long form tweet storms and this whole thing will die down soon for the other 95% of us. Weather the storm.

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yjftsjthsd-h|7 months ago

> Of course unlimited implicitly means “unlimited without abuse.”

So, not unlimited? Like, if the abuse is separate from amount of use (like reselling; it can be against ToS to resell it even in tiny amounts) then sure, but if you're claiming "excessive" use is "abuse", then it is by any reasonable definition not unlimited.

mwigdahl|7 months ago

It was never sold as unlimited. Max plans have always had both rate limits and 5-hour usage limits.

carlosjobim|7 months ago

This is the reason why fast food restaurants don't sell unlimited refills for their soda in Europe. People would demand the right to go and get ten sodas there every day of their life, since they had an "unlimited" refill.

MOARDONGZPLZ|7 months ago

> So, not unlimited?

Correct, not “unlimited” as in the dictionary definition of unlimited. Unlimited as in the plain meaning of unlimited as it is commonly used this subject matter area. i.e., Use it reasonably or hit the bricks, pal.

ajsnigrutin|7 months ago

So at what point does "normal usage" stop and "abuse" start? How many "queries" per day is that?

If there is a clear limit to that (and it seems there is now), then stop saying "unlimited" and start selling "X queries per day". You can even let users pay for aditional queries if needed.

(yes i know queries is not a proper term to use here, but the principle stands)