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cmilton | 7 months ago

How can we ever have a good faith argument if you believe anyone that says something supportive of Israel has been indoctrinated to do so "most of their lives"?

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pseudocomposer|7 months ago

How can you have a good faith argument if you create strawman arguments instead of acknowledging the point the person was making?

Everyone in the US and Europe has been indoctrinated to support Israel for most of their lives. That’s those who support Israel and those who don’t.

If you went to literally any school, or watched any television, in the US or Europe any time in the last 7 decades, every lesson taught, every broadcast made, that could have involved Israel was pro-Israel and pro-Zionism.

Not a single program or teacher has been able to share the viewpoint that religious ethnostates should not exist, or that the native Palestinian people didn’t deserve to be genocided to make room for one. If you expressed such a view, you’d be prevented from teaching or broadcasting. For decades.

cmilton|7 months ago

Are you suggesting that if you are from the US, you are unable to form an opinion of the facts that are presented from both sides?

I did have to go to school some time ago, but I also gained access to the internet during that time that allows anyone to research both sides of a topic. There are tons of books available that provide descriptions from both sides.

Why do I have to be on one side or the other? Is it because of my push back against a specific side, you assumed I aligned with the other?

achierius|7 months ago

That's not what they're saying. They're saying that almost all Americans have been indoctrinated as such.

throwawaybob420|7 months ago

A good faith argument? Brother who is committing genocide against the Palestinians right now?

cmilton|7 months ago

If you would kindly provide your definition of genocide, I will happily engage.