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hnthrow90348765 | 7 months ago

This stuff is naive. There's a bunch of people who want a large income (wealth) disparity, and they will fight to preserve it unless you give them an equivalent station in the 'new world'.

But you will still need to sustain ex-workers if they can't get normal jobs, and those same people at the top will not tolerate the taxes required to sustain a basic level of living for much wider population. They already can't tolerate the idea of a much smaller population using food assistance or healthcare from the government.

That leads me to think this is not really a visionary statement, but just a signal that Mark isn't intentionally trying to bring about a new dystopia, and here's his proof. And if a dystopia happens to come about, you can't blame him because he had pure intentions; clearly it was everyone else who just didn't agree with him and it's their fault.

Maybe make Meta a not-for-profit and there might be some credibility here.

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lvl155|7 months ago

Last time I commented on Zuck on HN I got a warning. That said, this stuff confirms for the 100th time that he is out of touch with reality. Perhaps that’s why he wanted to make VR work so badly. I think he might try to change Co’s name again since Meta doesn’t fit the bill anymore. How about they buy Intel and reverse merge just for the name?

Mars008|7 months ago

He needs to keep investors optimistic about Meta. Moonshot projects, fairy tales work if there is nothing else. Musk uses them too when promotes Tesla.

benterix|7 months ago

> he might try to change Co’s name again since Meta doesn’t fit the bill anymore.

If so, the logical choice would be to change the name from "Meta" to "AGI".

ta12653421|7 months ago

this would be then "Mintel" :-D

deepfriedchokes|7 months ago

I think perhaps it would be useful to completely ignore the nice words people use and just judge everyone based on their behavior.

From Zuckerberg’s behavior, since the beginning, it’s clear what he wants is power, and if you have the kind of mental health disorder where you believe you know better than everyone and deserve power over others, then that’s not dystopian at all.

Everything he says is PR virtue signaling. Judge the man on his actions.

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF|7 months ago

> completely ignore the nice words people use

Kind of an unrelated topic but I'm reminded of a video essay in which the creator talks about this. They put it very kindly, IMO:

> Rich and powerful people have quite a different attitude and approach to truth and lies and games compared to ordinary people.

Which sounds like a really nice way of saying that rich and powerful people are dishonest by ordinary standards.

https://youtu.be/m6lObdE3s10?t=245

ProofHouse|7 months ago

Mark has never had pure intentions born out and proven by 2 decades of decisions. Mark is NOT who we want shepherding in Superintelligence.

FirmwareBurner|7 months ago

>There's a bunch of people who want a large income (wealth) disparity

Apart form you of course, so I'm sure you'd be ok if the government would tax your higher than average tech wage till your take home pay would match that of a train conductor's or bus driver's, like in Western Europe, and therefore fix the wage gap you hate so much. Would you like that solution?

Caption this: It's only a problem when the people who earn more than me are greedy, but my greed is fine, it's OK for me to out-earn others because "I've earned it", not like Zuckerberg, he didn't earn it.

benterix|7 months ago

> the government would tax your higher than average tech wage till your take home pay would match that of a train conductor's or bus driver's, like in Western Europe

I live in Europe and earn ca. 6 times more than my friend who is a bus driver in the same city. We both have access to free education and, if we wish, also free healthcare, for which I am paying slightly more, but I really don't mind.

queenkjuul|7 months ago

I could comfortably live on a bus drivers wage here, obviously I'd prefer they make as much as tech workers, given their job is much harder; your solution is fine with me too, though.

antfarm|7 months ago

I believe that in the long run, that solution would be preferable to the effects of income and wealth disparity on US society.

hnthrow90348765|7 months ago

Sure I would, as long as they tax billionaires even more and guarantee it. I do CRUD app development, I'm not even responsible for anything as potentially dangerous as a train. Superintelligence would very likely take my job anyway, so I won't get taxed for long.

blinkbat|7 months ago

there's a cap on the bracket around 600k. there are people who make many times this and their percentage owed does not go up. they are also uniquely positioned to avoid paying what low comparative amount they owe. let's start there.

tanduv|7 months ago

perhaps we can create a sort of a bracket that scales based on the income?

DanHulton|7 months ago

Unless you are yourself a robber baron the likes of Zuck, you should look up this little concept called "class solidarity."