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samuell | 7 months ago

This is such an important project, to keep the big corporations from completely controlling the future of the web.

And it doesn't hurt that Andreas seems to be such a nice, humble guy.

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Xaiph_Rahci|7 months ago

> Andreas seems to be such a nice, humble guy.

Truer words have never been spoken!

His monthly update videos are so soothing to watch.

charcircuit|7 months ago

In order for that to be true Ladybird would need a sizeable market share, more than browsers like Firefox, which also isn't made by a corporation.

larodi|7 months ago

Interesting whether guys employ LLM to speed up development. Starting a new browser just like this would be very bold decision like 15 years ago, now seems like a reasonable thing to do actually.

RadiozRadioz|7 months ago

Would have to be at the hands of an already skilled practitioner. Average Joe programmer setting out to build a browser with Copilot will end badly. Big-picture architecture and discipline is too important with this level of complexity.

shakna|7 months ago

Ladybird is 425k LOC. Chromium is 3.5m LOC.

Starting a new browser, using LLMs... Is not going to maintain enough context.

Whilst Andreas does use Copilot a fair bit [0], he tends to do a line at a time, frequently disagree and rewrites his own, before prompting again. That is... He basically uses it as a fancy autocomplete. Not much else.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mxubNQC5O8&t=3099s

net01|7 months ago

Most of the guys in the LB project don't use LLM's, even though it extremely spec-driven, because C++ is not great with AI for some reason.

therein|7 months ago

A comment that could apply to anything. Notice how nobody except for your subthread here is talking about AI. This thread is not about AI or LLMs, for a good reason.

kome|7 months ago

they’re downvoting you, but the developer actually uses copilot a lot in his development videos. why are people so up in arms?

of course, he’s a very, very proficient developer and a browser specialist. he’s not just vibecoding, like you might be implying. but he also uses llms for development.