[_qbxi]

I certainly support efforts to shape US society into one where people might want children. Universal healthcare, strong social safety nets, free education, etc. Not to mention one where land is used in a conscientious way to build community, with walkable spaces, public third spaces, and strong public transit.

[matheusmoreira]

> Universal healthcare, strong social safety nets, free education, etc.

No such thing as free anything. Somebody's gotta work to pay for it. Those somebodies are the children and young healthy adults who are economically active. They are the ones who will pay the taxes which in turn fund services for everyone else.

So it's impossible to create a welfare system in order to encourage families. People need to have children first so that they can be made to pay for it.

[supplied_demand]

== So it's impossible to create a welfare system in order to encourage families. People need to have children first so that they can be made to pay for it.==

This ignores some important facts. First, lots of immigrants already pay taxes and don’t receive government benefits. Second, we already run a continuous deficit. Third, we could choose to shift existing spending priorities to more pro-family spending.

It would cost about 1/3 of our military budget to pay for universal pre-K 3/4.

https://budgetmodel.wharton.upenn.edu/issues/2022/6/2/total-...

[immibis]

The politics are more like: ban abortion, ban birth control, and assign every woman to a man...

[_qbxi]

I'm pro-natalist and pro-freedom.