[norenh]

Could you name another browser with enough backing to be able to keep up?

Besides Google Chrome (controlled and backed by the surveillance overlords) and Safari (Kept alive by Apple cultists) I see very few free alternatives that can stand on their own. The other options are various niche browsers that leech on one of these three that might have a few changes here and there but lacks the real capability to stand on their own legs.

What I mean with capacity to stand on their own legs is that the group behind it should;

  * Be able to be a part in development of web-standards

  * Be able to keep up with ever changing web-standards

  * Be able to suggest and develop new web-standards if needed

  * Be able to maintain a modern web-browser

This needs a relevant user-base, active developers and standard-committee members as well as infrastructure and cash-flow to maintain it for expected stuff like add-ons and various other bits needed (on-line checks, certificate handling, etc) that is expected from a modern browser.

I am worried about Mozilla but I see no reason to declare that the end is nigh just yet.

Firefox is still very much relevant to me, although I use mainly linux-distros and do not normally use webpages as applications (I browse with javascript disabled, unless there are specific needs). I would love to see some more options out there, but alternatives to Firefox are currently not on the horizon for me.

[dwb]

> Safari (Kept alive by Apple cultists)

This is a very silly thing to say given the widespread popularity of Apple products. There’s plenty of valid criticisms of Apple, but it being a “cult” is just not a serious or mature argument.

[cosmic_cheese]

> Safari (Kept alive by Apple cultists)

It’s tangential, but another reason why Safari is popular with some is that it’s refreshingly unbranded by browser standards. It doesn’t try to stand out and realizes it’s just another tool among many on your device. If anybody wants to pry some market share away from Safari, designing a browser that just quietly does its job and blends in without any fuss (no bespoke UI or design language or any of that) would be a good bet.

[Workaccount2]

I was hoping someone else would.

I see support for firefox drying up as Mozilla just bleeds out.

Ladybird seems cool, but I also think a fully functional browser needs a revenue stream and dedicated full time paid developers.

[9cb14c1ec0]

I'm hoping and praying for the Ladybird browser to succeed, as I despise the Mozilla organization (Firefox itself is ok, imo).