[mvid]

So you won’t even be able to isolate devices to your home network anymore, they will be phoning home by satellite

[eddythompson80]

That's already possible, it's just expensive. Remember when the kindles[1] used to have the option for built-in 2G/3G connectivity "for life" to download books from Amazon that you never had to sign up for or maintain or pay for. Until networks dropped support for 2G and 3G in 2021.

[1] https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=...

[paradox460]

I've explicitly bought all my Kindles with that feature. Amazon cheaped out a few years ago and it barely works on my 3rd Gen Oasis, which uses LTE

[Gigachad]

For small amounts of data transmit only you can do LoRawan with The Things Network for free.

[birdman3131]

So that started out as unlimited. After people abused it to tether it got dropped to like 50mb of non amazon traffic a month.

[MisterBiggs]

I think more worrying is devices mesh networking with devices owned by your neighbors.

[wkat4242]

Exactly, like Amazon sidewalk. They market it as an easy configuration feature but it can also be used for tracking and telemetry. So your smart TV can call home even when you don't connect your own WiFi.

[Spooky23]

Regular companies are gonna need SCIFs.

[wkat4242]

It won't work very well indoors anyway. If at all.

Amazon sidewalk is a much bigger threat in this regard. I'm really glad we don't have this in Europe.

[CamperBob2]

Never mind corporations, your next 'smart TV' will need a SCIF.

[hypeatei]

I'm sure this costs money to use, just like regular cell service would for the same theoretical IoT device. That's probably the main barrier to having its own network.

[fc417fc802]

Phoning home with a few packets here and there via the cell network is quite cheap. An adversary, pardon I mean OEM, doesn't need to upload 4k video to gain value here.

[pixl97]

I mean, if you're looking to spy on or attack someone with wealth it's probably well worth it for some organizations.

[LeoPanthera]

I'm pretty sure it doesn't work indoors.

[cma]

If anyone walks past your house with a device in the same bluetooth p2p network as your device this is already true (Amazon sidewalk). This could give them a more uninterrupted connection though.

[rightbyte]

I think these e.g. Verizon guest wifi:s might be used to try to spy on us too.

[_Algernon_]

Future homes will have built in Faraday cages.

[toast0]

If you've got stucco siding and radiant insulation in your attic, you've got the home of the future.

[contingencies]

Awesome insight.