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bumblehean | 6 months ago

> You can get work done in 1/2 of the time it used to. Now you got 1/2 of the day to just mess around. Socialize or network.

This has never been the case in any company I've ever worked at. Even if you can finish your day's work in, say, 4 hours, you can't just dip out for the other 4 hours of the day.

Managers and teammates expect you to be available at the drop of a hat for meetings, incidents, random questions, "emergencies", etc.

Most jobs I've worked at eventually devolve into something like "Well, I've finished what I wanted to finish today. I could either stare at my monitor for the rest of the day waiting for something to happen, or I could go find some other work to do. Guess I'll go find some other work to do since that's slightly less miserable".

You also have to delicately "hide" the fact that you can finish your work significantly faster than expected. Otherwise the expectations of you change and you just get assigned more work to do.

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bradlys|6 months ago

I'll go even further. I've been the guy who gets all his work done way faster than others. You know what happens? I get assigned way more work than most people until I am overflowing and the literal bottleneck is my peers being able to code review everything I do. Yet, I am still blamed for overproducing then too cause now I am creating too much work for my peers!

Literally unwinnable scenarios. Only way to succeed is to just sit your ass in the chair. Almost no manager actually cares about your actual output - they all care about presentation and appearances.

jeffyang|6 months ago

I mentioned this in a sibling comment, but one idea I have is instead of doing this extra work which is unrecognized, you spend your extra time on gaming the presentation and appearances aspect of it. Which you might not be good at at first but would be practice and probably have compounding gains in your career. And to add an extra interesting challenge is how can you game it with high integrity.

CER10TY|6 months ago

That‘s corporate jobs for you. It‘s about appearance, not results. That‘s why you make a big deal out of everything you work on.

jeffyang|6 months ago

In an attempt to have a positive framing around this, with the disclaimer that I haven't actually fully tried this, one idea might be to spend the extra time on all the politics stuff and marketing yourself and figuring out how to get in good with your manager and get promoted. And that stuff is not easy and you might not be good at it, but spending time on it is good practice and will slow you down in the areas you are good at so there's nothing to hide.

IncreasePosts|6 months ago

No, but you can go onto hn and shitpost every 30 minutes, instead of only being able to do it twice a day previously.

jonas21|6 months ago

If you're remote, you can. This is the crux of why a lot of developers love remote work and management hates it.

baal80spam|6 months ago

> If you're remote, you can

Uh, no?

assword|6 months ago

Remote is dead. They clawed it back as soon as they could. I’d argue it’s even hard to get a remote position now, then it was before COVID.