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42772827 | 6 months ago

The choice is no longer between "cutting out bread and sugar completely" and "some kind of lifelong moderation for a person that has struggled." The choice is now between "cutting out bread and sugar completely" and "removing the struggle to moderate bread and sugar."

You're clearly an advocate for your father making healthy choices. So why would you advocate against the use of a drug that makes that easier?

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nradov|6 months ago

Why waste money and risk side effects for a drug that's not actually needed? Changing your habits is much easier.

42772827|6 months ago

If changing habits were much easier, then people wouldn't be using the drug to make it easier change their habits. They would just do it.

homefree|6 months ago

Obviously it’s not much easier or the drug wouldn’t be so valuable.

People make such a moral crusade of this - the drug works, people will take it. Behavior modification works in theory and fails for most in practice. Even for those that can make it work usually don’t hold out indefinitely.

cthalupa|6 months ago

This is such an absurd statement.

If changing your habits was much easier then we wouldn't need these medications and the world wouldn't keep getting fatter. People have known how to not be fat for a long time, yet the obesity rate has been rising worldwide, even in countries that have traditionally been skinny.

It's not like fat people on the whole are ignorant of how to become not-fat and never attempt to do so.

ranger_danger|6 months ago

If it's so easy why does the drug even exist? Why is it so popular? Why isn't everyone just changing their habits so easily like you say?

sumeno|6 months ago

As someone who in the past lost ~50lbs and has mostly kept it off for more than a decade this is just horse shit. It's incredibly hard even as someone who was only a bit overweight and not obese and it is still a struggle 15 years later, even more so than it was when I was younger