[Cartoxy]

You say that like somehow nature will do better? Eaten alive on the Savannah. Zoo's have become much better over the years. People work at zoos typically because they love animals. The Danish zoo in particular is an excellent facility.

People just hate the facts of life without knowing they hate the facts of life, because we detatch and delude them from our everyday goings on.

The facts of life are just kind of shit. It's not fair. Its brutality indifferent. Thats all.

I think Zoos in developed western countries out perform nature on the basis of 'ethical concerns' any day of the week

[dtagames]

We used to keep people in cages[0] and show them, too.

If you love animals, don't do that to them.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elephant_Man_(1980_film)

[Cartoxy]

We would never condone dropping the elephant man into nature. If you like people you don't do that.

I've been a vegetarian for 12 years and it's not because i love animals, I'm just not into suffering and torture basically I suspecr most are probably assholes, there are lots of things don't like but I don't torture them, and atleast to me it's pretty clear that nature is careless about pretty much everything except your own, wether or not it's intended nature makes tortureeverywhre. It is literelly incapapble of giving a thought let alone care for you. Period.

Big cats are mandate carnivores. What is your solution.?? Atleast at the zoo the Euthanize the animals used for food. What would you prefer. Do you know the survival rate for tiger cubs in the wild. Perhaps you should do some reading. The zoo is comparitivlt a bastion of safety and considerations from people who actually think and care about things, leave it to the savannah. You get nothing and usually less then that. Eaten alive. Die of thirst. Disease. Sexed Fighting. And all the emotional truama that an animal can stomach, loss of loved one, abondment, fear, every kind of illness, congenital, contagious, psychological.. It's not just captivity in a zoo capable of mental truama. Pick your flavour but one has less nails in it. Enjoy the cats keep them happy. Minimize harm maximise good. Don't make more. That's all there is to do.