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chainingsolid | 6 months ago

Personally for me I only care about x86 for 2 reasons.

1) Steam library.

2) And the just works combo of ATX & the ability to use any ISO on almost any x86 machine.

I'm personally scared if x86 dies the open market of ATX and bring your own OS won't exist as every company will just lock you in to only there stuff on their devices.

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thewebguyd|6 months ago

> I'm personally scared if x86 dies the open market of ATX and bring your own OS won't exist as every company will just lock you in to only there stuff on their devices.

I share this fear, and have for a while. x86/the WinTel era has offered a lot of computing freedom, both hardware and OS wise and I believe we are in real danger of losing that. Not just because of an architecture change in isolation either, but also with the recent age verification stuff, and pushes for requiring "verified platforms" to access certain services, we are quickly heading down a proprietary-OS only world if you actually want to interact with web services.

seanw444|6 months ago

My hope is that the death of x86 results in everyone flocking to RISC-V.

FirmwareBurner|6 months ago

Who is this "everyone"? Just because RISCV ISA is open doesn't mean the ecosystem will be too. Because wile the ARM ISA is licensable by everyone so in theory everyone can be making X86 PCs, the current PC ARM ecosystem is way worse and way more locked down than X86.

Reminds me when people wanted Intel to die and then they realized AMD started raising their prices with no competition and they tough that maybe AMD isn't their friend and is like any other for profit corporation.

So I have no idea why people want to see the most open PC ecosystem die. What kind of short sighted masochism is this?

jabl|6 months ago

RISC-V being an open source ISA does not imply that devices using that ISA won't be locked down.

An open ecosystem in the way that historically emerged around the PC platform seems to be a completely orthogonal issue.

Joker_vD|6 months ago

Which will drastically improve things with how the boot sequence(s) work and non-CPU devices are discovered, initialized, and managed, I am sure. So far, SBI doesn't look very promising.