[izabera]

what's the problem with that? we have erotic texts dating back thousands of years, basically as old as the act of writing itself https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Istanbul_2461

[philipkglass]

There's nothing wrong with it, but you have to understand the differences between different user groups to know which limitations are relevant to your own use cases. "It doesn't follow instructions" could mean "it won't pretend to be a horny elf" or "it hallucinates fields outside the JSON schema I specified"; the latter is much more of a problem for my uses.

[dullcrisp]

    {
      "race": "elf",
      "horny": false
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
      Unsupported value.

[wmf]

I have no problem with it and I can understand why people don't want to say "I'm trying to pornify this model and it refuses to talk dirty!" in public. But if you're calling a model garbage maybe you should be honest about what the "problem" is.

[lmm]

Why? Is there any reason to believe problems in that context won't generalise?

[michaelt]

The pro-porn side has zero PR because respectable public figures don't see pro-porn advocacy as a good career move. At most, you'll get some oblique references to it.

Meanwhile, the anti-porn side has a formidable alliance:

Right-wing, religiously-motivated anti-porn activists. Left-wing, feminism-motivated anti-porn activists. Big corporate types with lots of $$$$ to spend who want their customer support chatbot to be completely SFW at all times. AI safety folk who think keeping the model on a tight leash is an ethical obligation, lest future iterations take over the world. AI vendors who are keen on the yes-it-might-take-over-the-world narrative. AI vendors who just don't want their developers having to handle NSFW stuff in work. Politicians who don't know a transformer from a diffusion model, but who've heard a chorus of worries about lost jobs and AI bias and deepfakes and revenge porn.

These people will speak up in public at the drop of a hat.

[sterlind]

on the other hand, Musk et al are building AI-powered thirst traps, like Grok's "Ani", or the accursed Replika bots (whose user base went on suicide watch when the company abruptly decided to digitally neuter their "companions.")

erotic roleplay, imo, is much less harmful than using LLMs as surrogate partners. porn and sex workers have existed for millenia. they're an outlet for sexual tension. they don't alleviate feeling lonely or provide an alternative to human companionship.

I'm worried we'll produce a generation of hikkikomoris, who eschew human connection for sycophantic machines that always listen and never breaks their heart.

[Aeolun]

Maybe you have a porn test suite for LLM’s? See which ones are fine with or capable of talking about specific topics? I believe there was something similar for willingness to discuss sciency stuff.

[mvdtnz]

It's not pro-porn and anti-porn. It's pro-porn and people who just don't think this is that important an issue. The latter massively, MASSIVELY outweighs you guys.

[throwuxiytayq]

i think god did a fairly hack job overall and i’ll gladly en masse commit acts that please me and fail to please his non-existent ass.

i’d even turn gay but that’s a bit out of my comfort zone

[jondwillis]

There’s some wisdom in whatever version of the translation of a translation of a translation of a memory of an oral story that you’re reading and lazily thrusting at a bunch of tech bros and bots, but just as much distortion, manipulation, and human ability to misunderstand and oversimplify.