[scottgg]

This is great! I wonder how much the presenters country - the Netherlands - has made this easier with the peering. It’s hard for me to imagine just asking big serious networks to patch you in down here in Switzerland is likely to fly.

[47282847]

One may have a good chance talking to people behind projects like https://www.community-ix.net/ and good old in-person networking in places like RIPE meetings. Basically everyone there including people working for large telcos have a personal interest in supporting independent structures.

[db48x]

It does seem easiest to start with an IX, where you can follow the published rules to join the IX and connection your network to it’s without bothering every other member.

[eqvinox]

Note an IX does not give you default/full internet connectivity. You'll only be able to reach the other participants' and their affiliates' networks.

[mrngm]

Perhaps get in touch with the people behind SwiNOG? https://www.swinog.ch/ (Swiss Network Operators Group)

[nu11r0ut3]

Hi! I am the presenter. It is true that we have a lot of active peering. In Nikhef alone there are at least 3 IXPs one can join for free (with 10G ports!). AMS-IX makes that 4 with their Bright Networks Club [1]. This can set you up with a lot of peering at basically no cost.

If you can't get into Nikhef, you can become a member of Coloclue. One of their data centers has Frys-IX indoors, and members can get an XC there.

[1] https://events.ams-ix.net/bright-networks-club

[preisschild]

I thought this would be the easiest in Switzerland with homelab-friendly ISPs like Init7

[eqvinox]

Uh, Switzerland is one of the best locations to do this in, due to the government fibre build-out mandate. However, you have to start a little larger than "minimum" ISP size in other countries to be able to take advantage of it.

Peering… really depends on where you are, it hasn't been a problem for us.

That said, Init7 is, for the time being, still a scaled-up mini ISP. They're slowly devolving into corporate-dom, but not there yet.

[theideaofcoffee]

I’m interested to hear more about Init7 becoming more corporate, is that just by virtue of growth and having to adapt to the complexity of being a larger org? Or something else?