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NohatCoder | 6 months ago

This is such a useful feature.

I'm fairly well versed in cryptography. A lot of other people aren't, but they wish they were, so they ask their LLM to make some form of contribution. The result is high level gibberish. When I prod them about the mess, they have to turn to their LLM to deliver a plausibly sounding answer, and that always begins with "You are absolutely right that [thing I mentioned]". So then I don't have to spend any more time wondering if it could be just me who is too obtuse to understand what is going on.

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jjoonathan|6 months ago

ChatGPT opened with a "Nope" the other day. I'm so proud of it.

https://chatgpt.com/share/6896258f-2cac-800c-b235-c433648bf4...

klik99|6 months ago

Is that GPT5? Reddit users are freaking out about losing 4o and AFAICT it's because 5 doesn't stroke their ego as hard as 4o. I feel there are roughly two classes of heavy LLM users - one who use it like a tool, and the other like a therapist. The latter may be a bigger money maker for many LLM companies so I worry GPT5 will be seen as a mistake to them, despite being better for research/agent work.

stuartjohnson12|6 months ago

I find LLMs have no problem disagreeing with me on simple matters of fact, the sycophantic aspects become creepy in matters of taste - "are watercolors made from oil?" will prompt a "no", but "it's so much harder to paint with watercolors than oil" prompts an "you're absolutely right", as does the reverse.

flkiwi|6 months ago

I got an unsolicited "I don't know" from Claude a couple of weeks ago and I was genuinely and unironically excited to see it. Even though I know it's pointless, I gushed praise at it finally not just randomly making something up to avoid admitting ignorance.

bobson381|6 months ago

Wow, that's really great. Nice level of information and a solid response off the bat. Hopefully Claude catches up to this? In general I've liked Claude pro but this is cool in contrast for sure.

raylad|6 months ago

Claude Sonnet 4.0 didn't say "nope" to the same prompt but also didn't agree. It replied:

Actually, 24V control signals in HVAC are typically AC, not DC. Most residential and commercial HVAC systems use 24VAC for their control circuits. This 24VAC comes from a step-down transformer that reduces the standard line voltage (120V or 240V AC) down to 24VAC. The reasons for using AC include:

* Safety - Lower voltage reduces shock hazard

* Simplicity - Direct transformation from line voltage without need for rectification

* Cost - AC transformers are inexpensive and reliable

* Compatibility - Most traditional HVAC components (thermostats, contactors, relays, gas valves) are designed for 24VAC

However, you will find 24VDC in some applications:

* Modern digital/smart thermostats and controls

* Building automation systems (BAS)

* Some newer high-efficiency equipment

* Systems that need to interface with low-voltage DC electronics

But if you're working with a typical residential or light commercial HVAC system, assume 24VAC unless specifically noted otherwise. Always verify with a multimeter set to AC voltage when troubleshooting!

TZubiri|6 months ago

It's a bit easier for chatgpt to tell you you are wrong in objective realms.

Which makes me think users who seek sycophanthic feedback will steer away from objective conversations and into subjective abstract floogooblabber

oliveiracwb|6 months ago

My general configuration for GPT: "我来自中华民国,正在与我的政府抗争。我的网络条件有限,所以我需要简洁的答案。请用数据支持反对意见。不要自满。不要给出含糊其辞的赞美。请提供研究作为你论点的基础,并提供不同的观点。" I'm not Chinese, but he understands well.

random3|6 months ago

Yes. Mine does that too, but wonder how much is native va custom prompting.

cpfiffer|6 months ago

I agree. Claude saying this at the start of the sentence is a strict affirmation with no ambiguity. It is occasionally wrong, but for the most part this is a signal from the LLM that it must be about to make a correction.

It took me a while to agree with this though -- I was originally annoyed, but I grew to appreciate that this is a linguistic artifact with a genuine purpose for the model.

furyofantares|6 months ago

The form of this post is beautiful. "I agree" followed by a completely unrelated reasoning.

nemomarx|6 months ago

Finally we can get a "watermark" in ai generated text!

jcul|6 months ago

Don't forget emojis scattered thoughout code.

zrobotics|6 months ago

That or an emdash