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slidehero | 6 months ago
fwiw, I mostly agree with you (ai training stinks of some kind of infringement), but legal precedent is not favouring copyright holders at least for now.
In Bartz v. Anthropic and Kadrey v. Meta "judges have now held that copying works to train LLMs is “transformative” under the fair use doctrine" [1]
i.e. no infrigement - bearing in mind this applies only in the US. The EU and the rest of the world are setting their own precedents.
Copyright can only be contested in the jurisdiction that the alleged infringement occurred, and so far it seems that fair use is holding up. I'm curious to watch how it all plays out.
It might end up similarly to Uber vs The World. They used their deep pockets to destabilise taxis globally and now that the law is catching up it doesn't matter any more - Uber already won.
[1] https://www.ropesgray.com/en/insights/alerts/2025/07/a-tale-...
martin-t|6 months ago
I know. I am describing how it should be.
Copyright was designed in a time when concealing plagiarism was time-consuming. Now it's a cheap mechanical operation.
What I am afraid is that this is being decided by people who don't have enough technical undersanding and who might be swayed by everyone calling it "AI" and thinking there's some kind of intelligence behind it. After all, they call genMS images/sounds/videos "AI" too, which is obviously nonsense.