[ARandumGuy]

> People using the Nokia 3210 were very much not anticipating when their phones would get good, they were already a killer app. That they improved was icing on the cake.

It always bugs me whenever I hear someone defend some new tech (blockchain, LLMs, NFTs) by comparing it with phones or the internet or whatever. People did not need to be convinced to use cell phones or the internet. While there were absolutely some naysayers, the utility and usefulness of these technologies was very obvious by the time they became available to consumers.

But also, there's survivorship bias at play here. There are countless promising technologies that never saw widespread adoption. And any given new technology is far more likely to end up as a failure then it is to become "the next iPhone" or "the new internet."

In short, you should sell your technology based on what it can do right now, instead of what it might do in the future. If your tech doesn't provide utility right now, then it should be developed for longer before you start charging money for it. And while there's certainly some use for LLMs, a lot of the current use cases being pushed (google "AI overviews", shitty AI art, AIs writing out emails) aren't particularly useful.

[fragmede]

The technology to look at is shopping carts. They're obvious to us now, but when they were first introduced, stores hired actors to use them so that real customers would adopt the habit. There are various "killer" apps that are already currently very useful for their users, but they'll take a while to percolate out as people discover them. That you don't agree with what the corpos are pushing is their bad.

[ARandumGuy]

But that's just more cherry-picking. You can always find some past success to push whatever point you're trying to make. But just because shopping carts were a huge hit doesn't mean that whatever you're trying to push will be.

For example, it would be wrong for me to say that "hyperloop got a ton of hype and investments, and it failed. Therefore LLMs, which are also getting a ton of hype and investments, will also fail." Hyperloop and LLMs are fundamentally different technologies, and the failure of hyperloop is a poor indicator of whether LLMs will ultimately succeed.

Which isn't to say we can't make comparisons to previous successes or failures. But those comparisons shouldn't be your main argument for the viability of a new technology.

[komali2]

People used to fill their bags with produce, bundles or bags of fish and meat, and here and there a couple bags or boxes of dry goods.

Carts were a necessity to get people to interact with the new "center aisles" of the grocery store which is mostly full of boxed and canned garbage.

[raincole]

> People did not need to be convinced to use cell phones or the internet.

Plenty of people don't need to be convinced to use LLM either...