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Lots of chat about this:

> Inference APIs aren’t subsidised

This is hard to pin down. There are plenty of metal companies providing hosted inference at market rates (i.e. assumed profitably if heading towards some commodity price floor). The premise that every single one of these companies is operating at a loss is unlikely. The open question is about the "off-book" training costs for the models running on these servers: are your unit economics positive when factoring training costs. And if those training costs are truly off-book, it's not a meritless argument to say the model providers are "subsidizing" the inference industry. But it's not a clear cut argument either.

Anthropic and OpenAI are their own beasts. Are their unit economics negative? Depends on the time frame you're considering. In the mid-longer run, they're staking everything on "most decidedly not negative". But what are the rest of us paying on the day OpenAI posts 50% operating margins?