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missingrib | 6 months ago

>Isn't consciousness an emergent property of brains?

Probably not.

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Davidzheng|6 months ago

what else could it be? coming from the aether? I think this one is logically a consequence if one thinks that humans are more conscious than less complex life-forms and that all life-forms are on a scale of consciousness. I don't understand any alternative, do you think there is a distinct line between conscious and unconscious life-forms? all life is as conscious as humans?

derektank|6 months ago

There are alternatives and I was perhaps too quick to assume everyone agreed it's an emergent property. But the only real alternatives I've encountered are (a) panpsychism: which holds that all matter is actually conscious and that asking, "what is it like to be a rock?" in the vein of Nagel is a sensical question and (b) the transmission theory of consciousness: which holds that brains are merely receivers of consciousness which emanates from other source.

The latter is not particularly parsimonious and the former I think is in some ways compelling, but I didn't mention it because if it's true then the computers AI run on are already conscious and it's a moot point.