[akavi]

As an American citizen, born and bred, I would literally, physically fight you on behalf of keeping Waterloo grads in America.

Many of the best coworkers I've had the pleasure of working with, not to mention the founders of the company I spent over a quarter of my career at (Pagerduty).

[nickm12]

hear hear! I've worked with exceptional people from all sorts of backgrounds, but pound for pound, Waterloo CS grads are significantly better on average than grads from any other CS program. They start off way ahead, but also maintain that edge throughout their careers.

Disclosure: I'm a US citizen with multiple CS degree from MIT and my son is studying CS at Waterloo now.

[akavi]

A zero-sum mindset on a website dedicated to programming of all places? Where we literally create wealth out of nothing but coffee and the strength of our minds?

My love for my country means I want it to be the greatest in the world. Waterloo grads make America better. Period.

[didibus]

The flip side should also be said, Canada and many other countries have talent drained by the US since they can't compete on pay.

It's hard to say, but who knows what could have been if the top Canadians had have to start or join Canadian companies and didn't have the option to take a higher pay in the US.

[faluzure]

I like the way you think. As a Canadian, I’m disgusted that we educate our youth and then send them to the US to take jobs from Americans and pay taxes to the Americans. We should be putting them to work in Canada instead so we can build companies and industries in Canada instead of America.

/s, but not really.

[greesil]

The American dream in silicon valley was built in part by these folks. They stay here and become Americans both culturally and legally and it's fantastic. Some of them even become Republicans.

As others have pointed out it's not a zero sum game since human capital begets growth.

[estearum]

The sudden explosion in zero-sum thinking in the right wing will be studied for generations

[vachina]

“Canadians”, touché.

[HDThoreaun]

Not only is this mindset disgusting, it is completely wrong. Labor is not zero sum, jobs create more jobs. Immigrants are what has made this country great, allowing immigration was critical to the US becoming the industrial/financial/tech capital of the world. Shutting down immigration will weaken our economy, it will cost americans jobs.

[kanbara]

there is no more american dream, and anyone who “creates” jobs in this economy and era of rampant hypercapitalism isn’t really enabling or transferring wealth.

if there were ample americans to do these jobs, they should be able to get them.

nationalism is a silly idea, anyway. and we should have free trade and movement with our biggest two allies. american exceptionalism is a joke

[jmspring]

What about the "masters" diploma mills?

[jmspring]

Of course visa mill down votes..