[philosophty]

I've never met anyone that argued for open borders that wasn't capable of isolating themselves from the negative effects. Like say, a tenured professor like Bryan Caplan.

Open borders might be net-positive but would very predictably devastate the lives of poor people in America. Not that most people who advocate it know anything about being poor.

[NikolaNovak]

Hang on, are we upset that immigrants are taking the jobs of poor people in America?

I thought based on original post we were upset immigrants are taking high paying specialist jobs from the rich techies in San Francisco?

Or are they just just taking all the jobs while miraculously not spending any money and not creating any demand and not participating in economy at all?

I just want to understand this evil scourge appropriately.

P.s. (And oh, boy, will I compete in the "knowing about being poor" with anybody on HN :)

[philosophty]

Poor Americans are the most in need of the opportunity tech jobs provide. That's how they can become non-poor Americans.

Poor Americans are also the most vulnerable to unskilled immigration making them even poorer than they already are.

It's not that complicated.