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wim | 6 months ago

Drop the “chat” and just call it “control”. The current proposal is so vague it would cover anything with online sharing/syncing people can sign up for. Any SaaS, any app, any service. Chat, email, file syncing, todo lists, doesn’t matter.

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sunshine-o|6 months ago

I am pretty sure now that this ChatControl thing is the result of the EU being unable to setup an US type NSA/echelon type stealth mass surveillance system.

They might have gone so far to have paid for an implementation but it didn't work (like the EU search engine, cloud or whatever) because they are really incompetent.

So now the solution is to do it in the open, just write a dystopian law and force it through the fake parliament. Our only hope now is the practical implementation of ChatControl will also be in practice ineffective.

We are not really living in 1984 or Brave New World, in the EU we are in the 1985 movie Brazil.

pqtyw|6 months ago

Does EU really have any real security apparatus independent from it's member states as such that it would really have a need for something like this?

Also ChatControl is something being pushed by Denmark and other ideologically similar countries not necessarily the EU itself as such.

samuelhautamaki|6 months ago

Not only is the current proposal "vague", the current proposal also is most likely illegal. The EU courts already have ruled that legislation which weakens/breaks encryption goes against the EU fundamental rights.

1oooqooq|6 months ago

dictionary have wiretap. so just call it wireless tap.