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birdfood | 6 months ago

I want a dumb EV. No infotainment system. Just speakers and a way to plug my device into them. Anything critical to the car should be completely air gapped and require an absolute minimum amount of software, preferably zero.

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uyzstvqs|6 months ago

Agreed. I'd actually like to buy an EV, but so far there are no candidates which meet my minimum requirements, which are pretty much what you said + serviceable by any mechanic with aftermarket parts + using Na-ion, not Li-ion batteries. And it shouldn't be super ugly like most new cars are today (e.g. Rivian, VW ID Buzz).

Though I'm pretty sure you can't even legally make such a car anymore, at least in Europe, where certain "smart" features are required for new cars. Perhaps a manufacturer of such an EV could put all of that into one box which the user can simply pull out and discard.

gambiting|6 months ago

We have a Volkswagen e-Up, it's basically that. Analog cluster, a very small radio screen that also displays the world's smallest reverse camera view, and a dashboard mount for your phone. It's a fantastic little car, I honestly like it more than our 400bhp Volvo XC60.

WayToDoor|6 months ago

The e-Up is great, but there is still the remote control modem installed by default that lets Volkswagen « Cloud » and the app control the car remotely, and get data such as the GPS location of the car.

Mistletoe|6 months ago

Check out Slate trucks. I want that too and this seems to be perfect. Has windows you roll down even. Fingers crossed it actually launches.

https://www.slate.auto/en

birdfood|6 months ago

Yeah I’ve seen these posted here previously! Probably the most appealing new car to me at the moment. Hopefully they take off and we can get them outside the US

bestouff|6 months ago

This thing has no autonomy

baq|6 months ago

Nobody will sell you one for cheaper than a whole package.

See also ‘smart’ tvs vs digital signage displays aka dumb tvs.

grishka|6 months ago

While this is partially true, digital signage displays are also designed to run 24/7, which also makes them more expensive than regular TVs.

crooked-v|6 months ago

There will always be at least a basic screen in new cars in the US because of backup camera requirements.

bestouff|6 months ago

Yeah, a basic screen with Android Auto + Carplay (just the video passthrough, not the OS with installable apps) would be perfect.

FireBeyond|6 months ago

Some cars fulfill this with a screen in the rear view mirror.

ponector|6 months ago

Such car will not comply with legislation. Or are you talking about car with all sort of tracking systems and driver's assists but no infotainment?

Anyway, that is not what majority want to buy. Even more, a car is not what majority want to buy in the USA. SUV/trucks are desirable.

owenversteeg|6 months ago

That’s illegal in the EU, 911 eCall requires an always-on cellular connection with an attached device that records your location. Would you please think of the children?