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patwolf | 6 months ago

For anyone looking for an off-the-shelf solution for wireless texting, I've used the BTECH GMRS-PRO. You can send messages on the device, but it's much easier to connect it to your phone via BLE and text through the app.

However, it uses GMRS bands, not LoRA, so all the FCC restrictions apply.

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threemux|6 months ago

While I highly doubt you'd ever get in trouble, data transmissions on GMRS are severely restricted by the FCC. You obviously need the license (though it's just a fee and covers your whole family).

In any case, I'm pretty sure this device is illegal to use for short text messages. It doesn't appear to comply with several of the restrictions on digital emissions in 47 CFR 95.1787(a), namely it appears to have a removable antenna. Removable antennas are fine for regular GMRS use, but not when the device can send digital emissions.

https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-47/part-95/subpart-E#p-95...

Also I'd be shocked if it enforced the time limits for digital transmissions in software. This leads me to believe it's not actually type-certified for use which then calls into question anything else it does. Caveat emptor.

patwolf|6 months ago

The antennas on mine don't appear to come off, at least not easily. I read somewhere that they came off on the early models but are now glued.

It does enforce time limits. If I send a message or something that uses digital communication (like gps coordinates), it won't let me send another one immediately after.

jpalawaga|6 months ago

Why wouldn’t they comply with tx duration? You don’t want excessively long tx as you can’t rx at the same time. You’ll lose messages.

etrautmann|6 months ago

Can you elaborate on the restrictions? Is it just that the Baofeng allows you to transmit on some frequencies that aren’t legal or at power levels that aren’t allowed or is it not allowed in the US at all?

pastorhudson|6 months ago

To use GMRS you need a license to be compliant with fcc. It’s not expensive I think $60 for 10 years and it covers your family.

You can then use GMRS. GMRS is all the same FRS channels plus several more. GMRS can also transmit at up to 50mw on some of the non-FRS channels.

To be using GMRS in compliance you have to use an FCC Part 95E certified device. These Baofeng / Btech devices are usually not GMRS certified. So you need a HAM license to use them. . . But HAM licenses doesn’t cover GMRS frequencies. So there is no technically compliant way to use these devices and check all the boxes. Even if you have both HAM and GMRS you are using a non Part 95E certified device. You’re likely fine as long as you’re not harassing people or causing interference. Generally the FCC is pretty reasonable. They send a letter saying knock it off before they knock on your door. But if you continue to harass people or use high power that causes interference then you will get a hefty fine.

At the very least get your GMRS license. But I encourage you to get your HAM license. I have found that often HAM nerds are into a lot of other stuff I like and my local club has been a welcome place to make friends and build fun stuff.

sejje|6 months ago

You need a ham license to do most anything with a Baofeng legally.