[Mabusto]

I've noticed a huge uptick in this brand of "entrepreneur". I think everyone who was inspired by devs like LevelsIO, limped their way through some code academy tutorials and was discouraged that you actually needed to have _some_ technical skills back in the mid 2010s is now encouraged to try again with vibe coding. It's always a combo of vibe coding + automation tools like n8n/zapier that does some simple data plumbing or just calls an API.

Just like you said, they all claim to make $xk per month and have a course to sign up for. I really hate this as places like product hunt are just gummed up now with Slapps (AI slop apps). The courses they sell seem to be how to quickly make Slapps, get people's email addresses and then use the authors email list management software (for a monthly fee) to endlessly send spam.

[nomilk]

Sounds like one of those course-based pyramid schemes similar to life coaches who "coach coaches to coach others how to coach coaches"

[csa]

> It's always a combo of vibe coding + automation tools like n8n/zapier that does some simple data plumbing or just calls an API.

I agree with all that you said, however…

I have found that doing stuff that could be done with code with the automation tools/services that you mentioned above (plus excel) is often preferable for small businesses and certain orgs precisely so that a programmer doesn’t have to be called on every time a change is needed.

Not knocking programmers (I’ve been programming since age 10), but programmers aren’t always easy to hire and evaluate, and their cost (at least until recently) has been extremely high.

These automation tools allow for business to make a tech leap with much lower execution cost and risk.

So while I agree that a lot of the “vibe coding” stuff being promoted is drivel, that doesn’t mean that the tools themselves are not empowering in the right hands.