[dc10tonite]

Yep. And you often end up doing waterfall with a veneer of agile that ends up being worse than either one.

[andrekandre]

this has been my experience too, its horrible because everyone does all the agile meetings and "planning" but its just used as progress reporting to the product managers... if thats all thats 'agile' being used for just do daily reporting and be done with it