[HAL3000]

> gpt5 has always been about making a "collection of models" work together and not about model++.

No, it wasn’t. Have you read and listened to Altman’s hype around GPT-5 from a year ago? They changed the narration after the 4.1 flop, which they thought would be GPT-5, and it seems some people fell for it.

> Capabilities ~90-110% of their top tier old models at 4-6x lower price

Maybe they finally implemented the DeepSeek paper.

[pera]

This is Altman before the release:

OpenAI's CEO says he's scared of GPT-5

https://www.techradar.com/ai-platforms-assistants/chatgpt/op...

Sam Altman Compares OpenAI To The Manhattan Project—And He's Not Joking About the Risks

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/sam-altman-compares-openai-ma...

This is Altman after the release:

Sam Altman says ‘yes,’ AI is in a bubble

https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/759965/s...

[NitpickLawyer]

> No, it wasn’t.

I replied below in this thread with the specific post, 6 months ago.

> After that, a top goal for us is to unify o-series models and GPT-series models by creating systems that can use all our tools, know when to think for a long time or not, and generally be useful for a very wide range of tasks.

> In both ChatGPT and our API, we will release GPT-5 as a system that integrates a lot of our technology, including o3. We will no longer ship o3 as a standalone model.

[lossolo]

"the delta between 5 and 4 will be the same as between 4 and 3"[1]

Obviously it's not.

1. https://lexfridman.com/sam-altman-2-transcript/