[valianteffort]

>60 or 70% of Americans polled*

I certainly don't want it and nobody I know that actually understands the real cost does either. Every single nation that provides socialized healthcare is hopelessly strained by its cost, and the service has suffered as a result. The system relies on eithe dramatic reductions in the cost of healthcare or a positive birthrate to sustain it.

Nobody I know in socialized healthcare systems has good things to say about it when they actually need it.

[cam_l]

The US has the most expensive healthcare costs per capita in the OECD, and the poorest health outcomes on average.

You might think that this is merely because so many people in the US are not covered at all. But even when you account for people who are covered, the results are mixed at best. With the US performing slightly better in some areas, but much worse across the board.

I also know a few people who have moved back from the US, even though they had health insurance, just to receive better socialised medical care in their own countries. I also know of a who went to the US to get cancer treatment. None of that means anything really. The number of people you know and their uninformed attitudes are statistically insignificant.

[primax]

I'd recommend you listen to the consumer's of those systems, instead of American pundits talking about them.

Our system in Australia is absolutely fantastic, and far cheaper in taxes than you'd think.

[valianteffort]

How much do you pay as a percentage of your salary in taxes? In total of course.

I pay 30% in taxes for federal and state. House is paid off but taxes is about 3% my salary. My insurance is more than I need (I don't use it at all) and cost me less than 2% of my salary.

You can keep your socialized system, we are doing more than alright here mate. I got plenty of friends in Europe, England, Canada, and Australia all complaining about the same thing, wait times for care. I can see my doctor for basically anything inside of a couple weeks.

[JojoFatsani]

Could say the same thing about interstate highways or the military though

[petemill]

Having experienced both, and needed both, I certainly have more positive things to say on the socialized version than the privatized version. Does the US system not hopelessly strain people by its cost? Does the US system not require positive rate of insurance payers to sustain it?

[_DeadFred_]

I was like you. Then I was left with a surprise $32,000 medical bill that I feel pushed me past my limit. I still haven't recovered my life. My divorce. Missing so much with my kids.

https://www.ilr.cornell.edu/scheinman-institute/blog/john-au...

You are OK with peoples lives (500,000 a year) being destroyed in order to 'keep the service good'. And you are OK with the price of good service being over 50% of American bankruptcies being due to medical dept. But who cares if peoples lives are ruined, you have a shorter wait.

When did this country become a country of sociopaths? This isn't working.

[valianteffort]

I don't know you or give a shit about you. You need to be a man and be accountable for your own life. Why are you expecting others to subsidize your mistakes?

You are weak and your life is the outcome of your own actions. You should have prepare for such a situation if you feared it was possible.

As for all the others, same thing, literally not my problem. You failed your family, why are you blaming the healthcare system.