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0x_rs | 6 months ago

You don't "get back to normal". 77 million people voted for this, and 90 million more did not care enough to stop it. This is the "normal" now, what they voted for, and you don't just forget about it.

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pandemic_region|6 months ago

I doubt they voted for _this_. They voted for a vague promise of a better life through some cool sounding measures, at the time. Now that people are starting to realize the demon they have given full power to, I doubt he would win another (unrigged) election.

jacquesm|6 months ago

That's the problem with ratchets. They click and then there is no going back. I always thought that votes should come with an elastic band.

kccoder|6 months ago

> I doubt he would win another (unrigged) election.

Many people said the same thing between 2017 and 2021.

csa|6 months ago

I have some MAGA-leaning family and professional acquaintances. Here is what I hear from them:

> I doubt they voted for _this_.

They most certainly did.

First, they love the retention of the tax cuts and the OBBB.

Second, they were repulsed by most/all things that liberals embraced: DEI, language police, gender topics, loose immigration policy, an obviously over the hill Biden, perceived weakness abroad (Afghanistan, Ukraine, Israel/Gaza), etc.

> They voted for a vague promise of a better life through some cool sounding measures, at the time.

Ehhh… I don’t think so. They wanted tax cuts and anything that was the opposite of liberal social policy. They got it.

As for the people who didn’t vote, I’m not sure anything has changed that would get them out to vote for an opponent to Trump (Biden, Kamala, or whoever other milquetoast candidate lined up).

> Now that people are starting to realize the demon they have given full power to, I doubt he would win another (unrigged) election.

I think he wins by more if the election is tomorrow.

Large swathes of the monied classes in the US are largely ok with the direction things are going.

Tariffs, harassment of immigrants, neutering the federal government, and chaotic diplomacy just seem like unfortunate collateral damage to them.

Imho, the US is in the midst of a constitutional crisis. If the Dems or some other group don’t approach 2028 accordingly, they may be watching from the sidelines again for who knows how many more years.

nobodyandproud|6 months ago

I think many did vote exactly for this.

Some of the things Trump has done—like tariffs—I actually agree with.

Sometimes you need to do stuff out of left field to break out of a rut.

But the purging of good civil servants is what enables Trump. And many of his voters fervently believe these civil servants are “the swamp”.