[chaoskitty]

This isn't good. Then again, the amount of power going in to these CPUs is way too high.

Take the AlphaServer DS25. It has wires going from the power supply harness to the motherboard that are thick enough to jump a car. The traces on the motherboard are so thick that pictures of the light reflecting off of them are nothing like a modern motherboard. The two CPUs take 64 watts each.

Now we have AMD CPUs that can take 170 watts? That's high, but if that's what the motherboards are supposed to be able to deliver, then the pins, socket and pads should have no problem with that.

Where's AMD's testing? Have they learned nothing watching Intel (almost literally) melt down?

[wkat4242]

> Take the AlphaServer DS25. It has wires going from the power supply harness to the motherboard that are thick enough to jump a car. The traces on the motherboard are so thick that pictures of the light reflecting off of them are nothing like a modern motherboard. The two CPUs take 64 watts each.

I am not involved in power VRM for modern moderboards. But I can imagine they are some some smart stuff like compensating for transport losses by increasing the voltage somewhat at the VRM so the designed voltage still outputs at the CPU. Of course this will cause some heating in the motherboard but it's probably easily controlled.

In the day of the alpha that kind of thing would have been science fiction so they had no alternative but to minimise losses. You can't use a static overvoltage because then when the load drops the voltage coming out will be too high (transport loss depends on current).

Also, in those days copper cost a fraction of what it costs now so with any problem just doing 'moah copper' was an easy solution. Especially on server hardware like the Alpha with big markup.

And server hardware is always overengineered of course. Precisely to prevent long-term load problems like this.