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likeclockwork | 6 months ago

Should there be secret police in the first place?

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PicassoCTs|6 months ago

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kelseyfrog|6 months ago

It sounds like you're saying, "Yes." Did I get that correct?

_mlbt|6 months ago

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bigmattystyles|6 months ago

Then at least wear a badge / uniform with a daily assigned number velcroed on front and back. And let this be unmarked by a court order if warranted.

goda90|6 months ago

Maybe this should make us question why ICE would even need to operate the way they do. Why raids and detention even for people with no history of violent crimes? Why does detention involve so much cruelty? Why is it so easy for legal residents, visa holders, and even citizens to get detained? Why is there a pattern of racial profiling in ICE's actions? Maybe if we can come up with something better then there'd be fewer angry people to threaten them.

AlecSchueler|6 months ago

The same was true of the police and army operating in Northern Ireland for the past 60 years but they never resorted to masks and continued to wear uniforms.

If someone in plain clothes and a facemask is grabbing someone off the street then how am I supposed to know it's legit?

danudey|6 months ago

Really? Because they were wearing masks from the start, long before the pushback started.

The reality is that they're wearing masks so that they can act with impunity; they behave as though they're above the law because they know that the people they're working for will never try to hold them accountable, and as long as they're anonymous the public can't hold them accountable either. This means they can do whatever they want to whoever they want and nothing will come of it, so if they want to harass and assault minorities they can do so freely.

myvoiceismypass|6 months ago

> unhinged individuals who are ambushing them, swatting their houses, and threatening their family members.

Sounds like you are describing ICE's actions?

stonogo|6 months ago

They've made that claim, but nobody's provided any evidence.