[jahewson]

Where do you guys get this nonsense from? Is there some sort of conspiracy theory factory? Do you have any idea how the rest of the world behaved during this time period? You are aware that the Muslims literally had multiple empires?

[bluecheese452]

No no, the ottoman empire was also obviously the fault of the west. The ongoing genocide in Sudan too.

[olddustytrail]

Sudan is a terrible example for your argument as it's practically a textbook example of Western colonialism, maintained by divide and conquer, and leaving a horrific mess when they wash their hands of the place.