[gchadwick]

The CTO of applications reporting to CEO of applications (who reports to the actual CEO) is kinda weird? I figure you're either the actual CTO or you're not a C-level exec and should have another title. Just more title inflation I guess. Maybe in same way you see VPs of X everywhere in some organizations we'll be starting to see CEO/CTO of X lower and lower down the org chart.

[citizenpaul]

Sounds to me like another phase in the growth of the "Unaccountability Machine"

https://www.amazon.com/Unaccountability-Machine-Systems-Terr...

Oh the CTO approved it so we should blame them. No not that CTO the other CTO. Oh so who decided on the final out come. The CTO! So who is on first again?

[nerdsniper]

“CTO” makes sense as a signal that “the buck stops here” for technical issues. They are the highest-ranking authority on technical decisions for their silo, with no one above them (but two CEO’s above them for business decisions)

If Mira Murati (CTO of OpenAI) has authority over their technical decisions, then it’s an odd title. If I was talking with a CTO, I wouldn't expect another CTO to outrank or be able to overrule them.

[atty]

It would be quite strange indeed for Mira Murati to have a say over their technical decisions, considering she does not work for OpenAI :)

[neom]

It's signaling P&L responsibilities. It's not that weird, at least not unheard of at all, just that it's typically done through "EVP" - So EVP Applications, VP of Applications Engineering, etc. - I'm guessing that the line items those "C"s who are not Sam are responsible for, are bigger than most F500 executives, and they're using titles to reflect that reality.

[swyx]

just gonna point out that Google has done this as well and its not so much title inflation as it is just acknownledging the fact that if the unit they command was a standalone business they would well be worth the CEO/CTO title.

[geodel]

This C level thing is happening for decades. There are many with CTO title who manage groups sometime as small as 5-10 people. And they are not startups but large corporates.

[prasadjoglekar]

Just look at any media agency (OMG as an example). There are CEOs up the wazoo, one for North America, one for EU etc.

In practice, these are just internal P&Ls.

[giancarlostoro]

I'm just sitting here wondering what in the world "Applications" is, is that a subsidiary or what?

[kridsdale1]

A thing that uses a model to have customers.

[therealbilliam]

Apparently that's what they call ChatGPT, Codex, etc ¯\_(ツ)_/¯