[Liwink]

> But don't forget China still emit 16B compared to US who emit 6B tons of CO2

China has 1.4 billion people, while U.S. has 340 million people.

[nerpderp82]

And China makes all of our stuff. Instead of putting tariffs on solar from China, we should have dropped a trillion dollars on it and put it everywhere.

[chrisco255]

Before you drop a trillion dollars, you do a cost benefit analysis and you factor for switching costs, the unique geography and population distribution of the U.S. the expected lifespan of solar panels, the battery install capacity necessary to facilitate nighttime and 100 to 1000 year weather event emergencies, the capacity to keep the grid online in the event of a world war, the cost to install HV lines to transport from solar hubs, etc.

You don't dogmatically order $1 trillion of something and sacrifice a functional independent, diverse, weather resilient, geographically distributed energy grid thats served the nation that invented the light bulb for over 125 years, because you read a clickbait headline about China.

[bialpio]

Per capita is a better metric but it's worth noting that China is world's factory - it's easy to reduce emissions if you offshore a lot of your production elsewhere...

[beej71]

And China has the US beat per capita in emissions.

[closewith]

And the US, like most of the West, had outsourced their most carbon intensive manufacturing.

[tonfa]

And looking at historical emissions, US contributed 25% of all emissions vs China 15%.