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Ragnarork | 6 months ago

The license used for this is quite a read.

  Available to the world except the European Union, the UK, and South Korea
Not sure what led to that choice. I'd have expected either the U.S. & Canada to be in there, or not these.

  3. DISTRIBUTION.
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  c. You are encouraged to: (i) publish at least one technology introduction blogpost or one public statement expressing Your experience of using the Tencent HunyuanWorld-Voyager Works; and (ii) mark the products or services developed by using the Tencent HunyuanWorld-Voyager Works to indicate that the product/service is “Powered by Tencent Hunyuan”; [...]
What's that doing in the license? What's the implications of a license-listed "encouragement"?

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NitpickLawyer|6 months ago

> Not sure what led to that choice.

It's the EU AI act. I've tried their cute little app a week ago, designed to let you know if you comply, what you need to report and so on. I got a basically yes, but likely no, still have to register to bla-bla and announce yak-yak and do the dooby-doo, after selecting SME - open source - research - no client facing anything.

It was a mess when they proposed it, it was said to be better while they were working on it, turns out to be as unclear and as bureaucratic now that it's out.

flanked-evergl|6 months ago

If I was Russia and/or China and I wanted to eliminate EU as a potential rival economically and militarily, then I don't think I could have come up with a better way to do it than EU regulations. If it was not for the largess of the US, then EU would become a vassal of Russia and/or China. And I think the US is running out of good will very rapidly. The EU could, of course, shape up, but it won't.

llbbdd|5 months ago

I'm amazed that they could pull themselves together enough to publish an app at all.

L_226|6 months ago

Which app is that?

crimsoneer|5 months ago

I mean, neither the UK nor South Korea are in the EU, nor does it have equivalent laws. I suspect ongoing push from US and China that nobody has the right to be involved in AI regulation that isn't them and just general vibes.

mushufasa|6 months ago

The EU and others listed are actively trying to regulate AI. Permissive OSS libraries' "one job" is to disclaim liability. This is interesting that they are just prohibiting usage altogether in jurisdictions where the definition of liability is uncertain & worrying to the authors.

ezoe|5 months ago

Geological copyleft?

amelius|6 months ago

That would be an extremely lazy way of writing a license.

b3lvedere|6 months ago

"You are encouraged to: (i) publish at least one technology introduction blogpost or one public statement expressing Your experience of using the Tencent HunyuanWorld-Voyager Works; and (ii) mark the products or services developed by using the Tencent HunyuanWorld-Voyager Works to indicate that the product/service is “Powered by Tencent Hunyuan” "

Is this the new 'please like and subscribe/feed us your info' method?

isodev|5 months ago

That's malicious compliance. The AI Act is quite straightforward in this case - Tencent would need to document a summary of their training data, copyright compliance (that they're not stealing content to train their model) and explain how they do risk (model safety) management. That's it. It's really not rocket science.

whimsicalism|6 months ago

EU has very difficult AI and data regulations, not sure about South Korea

isodev|5 months ago

That's false, though. It's clickbait headlines that make it seem difficult ;-)

NullCascade|6 months ago

Maybe private Chinese AI labs consider EU/UK regulators a bigger threat than US anti-China hawks.

BryanLegend|6 months ago

So in this case is North Korea more free than South Korea?