[paulhodge]

I think different things are happening...

For experienced engineers, I'm seeing (internally in our company at least) a huge amount of caution and hesitancy to go all-in with AI. No one wants to end up maintaining huge codebases of slop code. I think that will shift over time. There are use cases where having quick low-quality code is fine. We need a new intuition about when to insist on handcrafted code, and when to just vibecode.

For non-experienced engineers, they currently hit a lot of complexity limits with getting a finished product to actually work, unless they're building something extremely simple. That will also shift - the range of what you can vibecode is increasing every year. Last year there was basically nothing that you could vibecode successfully, this year you can vibecode TODO apps and stuff like that. I definitely think that the App Store will be flooded in the coming future. It's just early.

Personally I have a side project where I'm using Claude & Codex and I definitely feel a measurable difference, it's about a 3x to 5x productivity boost IMO.

The summary.. Just because we don't see it yet, doesn't mean it's not coming.

[copperx]

If I've learned something about humans in my 40+ years of being alive is that in the long term, convenience trumps all other considerations.

[bcrosby95]

I think it depends.

There are very simple apps I try to vibe code that AI cannot handle. It seems very good at certain domains, and others it seems complete shit at.

For example, I hand wrote a simulation in C in just 900 LOC. I wrote a spec for it and tried to vibe code it in other languages because I wanted to compare different languages/concurrency strategies. Every LLM I've tried fails, and manages to write 2x+ more code in comparatively succinct languages such as Clojure.

I can totally see why people writing small utilities or simple apps in certain domains think its a miracle. But when it comes to things like e.g. games it seems like a complete flop.