[carstenhag]

This is, as the title mentions, the cheapest EV. It's really old. It did not have tech that pretty much all EVs have nowadays.

Nowadays you don't have to do this. You can. Just like with your phone or laptop.

[nicce]

> It's really old.

Funny, how 2 years old car is really old. For combustion engines, old is like 15+?

EVs will have the same problems as mobile phones. Maybe manufactures want that. But software will define the age of your car and I don’t like it. What if the car requires internet connection and the company dies?

[rsynnott]

For practical purposes it is a 15 year old design; it had a minor update 8 years ago, but was not brought up to date with the norms of the time (in particular, the passively cooled battery).

This was the very first mass-market electric car, with only minor tweaks. It's not surprising that it's a bit rough around the edges. That's part of why they're cheap second-hand (along with the fact that the 3rd gen, which actually is a proper redesign, is coming out this year).

[numpad0]

ZE1 Leaf(2017) was electronically a big minor update over ZE0(2010). IIRC so much so that ZE1 battery packs almost work on ZE0 body with only minor hack efforts.

So they're basically 15 years old, technologically older than the Model S. Windows 7 was 1 year old when its basic systems shipped.

[Tade0]

To add to what others said: back in 2017 40kWh was the standard, now people scoff at 55kWh. Cars also charge faster, which greatly increases their highway driving potential.

> What if the car requires internet connection and the company dies?

That's not a problem specific to EVs and with Chinese combustion car brands coming and going all the time, it's obvious.

[padjo]

First generation Leaf was launched in 2010 second gen in 2017. That’s quite an old design for any tech that’s still advancing.

[tpm]

It's a 2 years old car, but the model and technology (2nd generation Nissan Leaf) is from 2017, so it's 8 years old in a rapidly evolving field.