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SwellJoe | 5 months ago

This has to be a bit. You can't possibly believe Musk's fantasies after a couple decades of hilarious (and occasionally dangerous) lies.

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throwmeaway222|5 months ago

MDS (Musk Derangement...)

I'm not trying to insult you, but think about this. Musk has a reputation of actually delivering on the things he showcases- Cybertruck is real, it also failed, but he delivered it. Starlink is real, and it is winning spectacularly and probably has saved countless Ukrainian lives at this point. Yes FSD is not there yet, but I can pretty much guarantee you that it will be the first car that (is not a taxi) that has it.

And breaking apart my own statement slowly for you:

  Tesla robot will be the most advanced consumer grade product ever made

  ^ product               ^
                          will have vision, grip, communication,
                          ability to agentically think and perform physical tasks
                                        ^ Yes it is "a consumer grade product"
                                          that will literally not have
                                          real viable competition for a while
So please stop with the MDS so we can actually discuss the REALITY of the world.

xNeil|5 months ago

>You can't possibly believe Musk's fantasies after a couple decades of hilarious (and occasionally dangerous) lies.

Eh, betting against Musk generally seems to be a losing proposition. Starlink alone would have given me faith in his abilities, what Tesla's done with Models 3 and Y and SpaceX with Falcon 9 gives me all the more reason to believe him. Yes, despite the absurd timelines, which I'm generally okay with. (Not OP)

general1465|5 months ago

Like 10 years of promises of Full Self Driving which does not drive itself.

Esophagus4|5 months ago

I happen to agree with you but for different reasons.

I will never bet on Musk, but I’m also not dumb enough to bet against him, given TSLA’s stock growth. The board has set a wild target for him before, and he hit it.

It’s too easy to say “he’ll never achieve that!” from the comfort of an armchair internet comment.

Ok, if you really believe that, step up to the line and place your bets. Because if you don’t believe it enough to put money on it, you probably don’t believe it that much.

freerobby|5 months ago

People never learn. The haters always think this time will be different.