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kasperni | 5 months ago

> But the codebases you encounter written in it, particularly in the enterprise, are often horrible.

Not sure they are worse than other languages?

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Having now experienced such Java codebases for the first time in my 15 year career… no, the Java code is much, much worse. Over engineered and otherwise poorly written Java code is SO much worse than other over engineered code I have worked with.

eBombzor|5 months ago

Honestly for the limited projects I've had to work with... I can attest to that. It's the over engineered abstractions that get me. Traditional Java EE users use WAY too many abstractions and interfaces, it's absolutely horrible to debug.