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Frost1x | 5 months ago

The underlying issue here isn’t AI based policing, it’s the fact private entities have enough unregulated influence on peoples’ daily life that their use of these or any such policy mechanisms are undemocratically effecting people in notably significant ways. The Facebook example is, whatever, but what if it’s some landlord renting making a decision, some health insurance company deciding your coverage, etc.

Now obviously this won’t stop with private entities, state and federal law enforcement are gung-ho to leverage any of these sorts of systems and have been for ages. It doesn’t help the current direction the US specifically is moving in, promoting such authoritarian policies.

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lumost|5 months ago

We already live in this world for health insurance. The ai can make plausible sounding denials which a doctor can rubber stamp. You have no ability to sue the doctor for malpractice, you cannot appeal the decision.

Medical insurance is quickly becoming a simple scam where you are forced to pay a private entity that refuses to ever perform its function.

immibis|5 months ago

Worth noting this isn't hypothetical. There was a story a while back where a health insurance company would hire real doctors to sit at computers all day clicking "accept AI resolution" over and over (they were fired if they rejected AI resolutions) because the law required that.

olddustytrail|5 months ago

Most first world countries don't have this. It's not a given.

giancarlostoro|5 months ago

I mean, I no longer work at this place.. and I have no idea what % of customers used Facebook to login to their accounts, but I'm sure someone would have been mad they couldn't get the famous butter biscuits reward if I had gotten banned, and Facebook had proceeded to ban our FB app. ;)

Ray20|5 months ago

> what if it’s some landlord renting making a decision, some health insurance company deciding your coverage, etc.

Then you simply use the services of another private company. Here, in fact, there are no particular dangers, after all, private companies provide services to people because it is profitable for private companies.

BiteCode_dev|5 months ago

This works only if none of those are true:

- There is real competition. It's less and less the case for many important things, such as food, accommodations, health, etc.

- Companies pay a price for misbehaving that is much higher than what they got from misbehaving. Also less and less the case, thanks to lobbying, huge law firms, corruption, etc.

- The cost of switching is fair. Moving to another places is very expensive. Doing it several times in a row is rarely possible for most people.

- Some practice are not just generalized in the whole industry. In IT tracking is, spying is, and preventing you from managing your device yourself is more and more trendy.

Basically, this view you are presenting is increasingly naive and even dangerous for any citizen practicing it.