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sonicggg | 5 months ago

Ironic to read about free speech here where a bunch of stuff gets "[flagged]" when it does not agree with the hive mind.

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perching_aix|5 months ago

i believe a true(tm) free speech platform would allow itself to be flooded with spam. few spaces like that exist sadly, and they're rarely intentional :(

the worst part is that im only half joking.

DangitBobby|5 months ago

Lol. Every fucking forum has people constantly bellyache about the moderation systems. Hivemind is a dead giveaway for thoughtless criticism. It's so tiresome. If it's flagged on HN it's almost always lowest common denominator mindless drivel or flamebait. No one serious would advocate for a system where comments can't be flagged as such.

DaSHacka|5 months ago

You should enable showdead in your user preferences, I think you may be surprised to see what gets flagged.

I think the big issue is new accounts aren't allowed to downvote posts, but can flag them. In effect, the "flag" merely becomes the new downvote, leading to unpopular but relatively high-efffort coments becoming dead and invisible rather than downvoted.

Honestly just switching the two around (anyone can downvote, but only 500+ karma can flag) would go a long way to ensure only actual low-effort posts and spam get flagged, and unpopular posts get downvoted. As it is now, I rarely see an unpopular opinion that was downvoted and isn't already flagged.

_Algernon_|5 months ago

DaSHacka|5 months ago

"Its free speech when I talk, but if you, someone who says things I disagree with talks, then you're merely an asshole being shown the door"

I wonder what his opinion on pro-Palestinians getting banned on twitter is? Is it different then? What about the canning of Stephen Colbert?

I love these smug posts about how "free speech as a concept only applies to the government censoring people" that were made a couple years ago, where now the same figures are unbelievably opposed to sites like Twitter "excercising their right" to ban dissidents.

Turns out this free speech thing might be a pretty useful ability to have, huh?